tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post3601448589292612772..comments2024-03-27T11:22:03.840-04:00Comments on Ramona's Voices: What hath Glenn Beck Wrought? Naught but Rot.Ramona Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07160614050077886238noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-41088244563475079912010-09-03T22:14:13.313-04:002010-09-03T22:14:13.313-04:00Thanks again Ramona. The corporate greed is behind...Thanks again Ramona. The corporate greed is behind this Bozo. They keep cohersing the facts and history and keep getting away with it. But pretty soon either the nation will polarize even more or they will stand against it. I just hope for the lastlelocolonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13863848230674917354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-69805139115390044262010-09-01T07:36:21.610-04:002010-09-01T07:36:21.610-04:00What is it about the nature of some that learning ...What is it about the nature of some that learning from experience is such a challenge? It's really the only way a civilization survives. It's the way children grow up to become adults. They touch a hot stove, it burns, they don't touch it again.<br /><br />Our leaders don't seem to have that capacity for learning from our mistakes. The Corporate takeovers, the Great Depression, the foolish entry into wars that kill our young by the thousands, the raping of our lands. . .we've been there, done that, and then we go back and do it all over again.<br /><br />Yes, there are some here with "very little brain and even less character". Too bad for us that they're allowed to vote and thus put their own kind into positions of power.<br /><br />We can't give up. Not until the last nutcase, warlord and greedmeister is gone. There has to be some way to outsmart them, but we can only do it together.Ramona Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07160614050077886238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-53583489771969546092010-09-01T02:44:55.672-04:002010-09-01T02:44:55.672-04:00The mistake "our side" makes, again and ...The mistake "our side" makes, again and again, being our own contribution to humanity learning nothing from experience, is thinking that these are people who can be reasoned with. <br /><br />They can not be reasoned with - they have not reasoned their way into their positions, such as they are, so reasoning them out of them is not possible.<br /><br />Developments such as this make me the pessimistic misanthrope I often seem. Pessimistic because I look at the policy-obsessed left and wonder whether (or indeed if ever) they will learn that narrative resonates far more, and emotion invariably trumps reason, and misanthropic because Mike Judge's "Idiocracy" (the single most depressingly funny film I've seen in the last five years) seems positively Delphic in its casting of the future as the province of those of "...very little brain" and even less character.<br /><br />The future, as Yogi once said, ain't what it used to be.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06939468809703630844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-49964374419961679812010-08-31T22:53:07.042-04:002010-08-31T22:53:07.042-04:00Alan, my husband has read everything Sinclair Lewi...Alan, my husband has read everything Sinclair Lewis ever wrote (or as much as he could get his hands on) and as a team our fears are the same as yours (and his). There are so many valuable, logical, articulate voices out there warning against the rising tide of hatred and false patriotism, but so far they haven't found the magic words to even slow it down. Nothing, it seems, will stop that mob and as astonishing as it is, I fear they're winning again. It can't possibly be that the majority want to kill off what's left of this country, but we're heading in that direction.<br />It's going to take more than words now, it's going to take jobs and a strong economy--and I'm afraid that's years away, if at all. We're in the midst of a damned calamity and our leaders think if they do nothing it'll resolve itself. <br />Nero fiddles while Rome burns.Ramona Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07160614050077886238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-8959857388720187552010-08-31T10:56:54.414-04:002010-08-31T10:56:54.414-04:00My grandmother grew up in Sauk Center, MN, childho...My grandmother grew up in Sauk Center, MN, childhood friends with the author of these seemingly prescient words:<br /><br />“When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”<br /><br />Either this nascent fascism must be squelched - sooner rather than later - or you and I will have far too much cause to be glad of our graying heads, and far too many reasons to fear for the society younger family members will inherit.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06939468809703630844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-59909607369870377962010-08-31T08:42:36.741-04:002010-08-31T08:42:36.741-04:00Hi Lora, your "deeply delusional" line i...Hi Lora, your "deeply delusional" line is so right on it's scary. What's really scary is how people like that can draw followers. Hitler's rise came when people thought they had nowhere else to turn, and I see Beck/Limbaugh/Palin pandering to the same fears here and now. Somehow we're not getting the message out that their direction is entirely the WRONG direction. It's not that we're not trying--it's that their voices are louder than ours. And, let's face it, we're getting no help from the Dems in power. They're clueless when it comes to solving problems or quelling fears. I'm dreading November.Ramona Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07160614050077886238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-50495271368225948252010-08-30T12:01:20.002-04:002010-08-30T12:01:20.002-04:00Once again my dear woman you hit the nail squarely...Once again my dear woman you hit the nail squarely on it's head! The first thing that came to my mind when I saw the first minutes of his speech was Hilter. He is so deeply delusional in his mania that it almost literally infects the air around him with a poison that at it's core attempts to destroy all the advances we have made as a country morally. I think HE is the Anti-Christ. He wants people to unite. So did Hitler.Lorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03016470965797319737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-55321271983250633582010-08-30T11:59:44.916-04:002010-08-30T11:59:44.916-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03016470965797319737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-29764165228730011942010-08-29T22:27:50.848-04:002010-08-29T22:27:50.848-04:00Wendy, I don't know why you couldn't respo...Wendy, I don't know why you couldn't respond at TPM but I see I have recommends but no comments. Hmmm. And of course it's Sunday.Ramona Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07160614050077886238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-22007669863366136052010-08-29T22:26:46.861-04:002010-08-29T22:26:46.861-04:00Hi Wendy, nice to see you here. I don't know-...Hi Wendy, nice to see you here. I don't know--I hesitate to say they're too young. I think when I was their age I understood right from wrong and knew demagoguery when I saw it. I was young during the HUAC and McCarthy hearings, but I saw right through that creep and those on the dais beside him. They destroyed lives for no good reason other than self-aggrandizement and the power behind fear. I remember seeing pictures of the Ku Klux Klan and of bodies hanging from trees and being horrified that the enemy before us were Americans and not some shadowy foreign monsters.<br /><br />I've seen these people all my life, and I've never understood them. I used to be terrified of them. No longer. I see them for the slimy pissants they really are, and I'm going after them.Ramona Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07160614050077886238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-10011738277809807662010-08-29T22:17:19.945-04:002010-08-29T22:17:19.945-04:00Welcome Beetlejuice. MLK taught us all that there...Welcome Beetlejuice. MLK taught us all that there was dignity in forgiveness but there was might in words. I'll never forget that.Ramona Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07160614050077886238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-11269626195345829342010-08-29T21:10:04.162-04:002010-08-29T21:10:04.162-04:00PS -- I tried to respond to you at TPM, but I cann...PS -- I tried to respond to you at TPM, but I cannot log in, apparently, to leave a comment for you there. Never mind.<br />What you have written, here and there, is important.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18402258035130942925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-41384952685136676812010-08-29T20:40:40.728-04:002010-08-29T20:40:40.728-04:00AMEN, Sistah.
Ramona, what I fear is not Glenn Bec...AMEN, Sistah.<br />Ramona, what I fear is not Glenn Beck/Sarah Palin. Because you and I and countless others actually remember the importance, the resonance, the electrifying moment of MLK's speech on the Mall --- not as a YouTube video -- but in real time, in the moment.<br />What I fear is all those who came after us, who have grown up in the facsmile generation, in which real experience is not differentiated from virtual experience.<br />For Glenn Beck to pontificate in this context is -- even for an agnostic -- an abomination. <br />They have no shame. Is it because they are, in fact, too young?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18402258035130942925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-53441216063546688352010-08-29T20:15:57.912-04:002010-08-29T20:15:57.912-04:00Thank you for restoring my faith and reminding me ...Thank you for restoring my faith and reminding me I should always be seeking that higher plane of conscientious where dignity and discipline are to be found and leave the cup of bitterness and hatred to those for whom the bells toll.BeetleJuicenoreply@blogger.com