tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post2939473146776315635..comments2024-03-29T05:23:06.618-04:00Comments on Ramona's Voices: The GOP Fixation on Rape and Sex and Women's Bodies: There are Cures for That.Ramona Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07160614050077886238noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-20716583135839587502012-08-25T09:00:44.120-04:002012-08-25T09:00:44.120-04:00That's top LEFT! Sorry. I forgot to wiggle m...That's top LEFT! Sorry. I forgot to wiggle my fingers to see which hand I write with.Ramona Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07160614050077886238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-12256397748991007462012-08-22T20:10:17.171-04:002012-08-22T20:10:17.171-04:00Thank you, D James. I wish I knew how to talk to ...Thank you, D James. I wish I knew how to talk to conservatives in a language they're willing to listen to. Obviously, I haven't found those magic words yet. One thing I know for sure--if you go into it thinking you'll be called a "mere liberal", you will be.<br /><br />I'm proud to be a liberal and I can point to historical events that show our successes in this country. Our successes were everyone's successes, and it's no secret that every successful social program endorsed and executed by Democrats was fought against mightily by Republicans. (See top right of my blog for some examples.)<br /><br />Rick Snyder's stonewalling was so transparent to every liberal in our state, but unfortunately the Republicans don't need or even want facts and figures. They were going to vote for him, no matter what. They didn't care where he came from or what he wasn't saying.<br /><br />Democrats are more discerning--sometimes to our detriment. We expect our candidates to be perfect, whereas the Republicans are willing to overlook even the most egregious behavior in order to win.<br /><br />I'm not suggesting we take just anybody, but I am suggesting we get full force behind our candidates once they've been chosen and use facts to build our arguments. The differences between the Democrats and Republicans are stark, and anybody who says they're not just hasn't studied the issues. Ramona Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07160614050077886238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-47196352222784193072012-08-22T19:56:22.690-04:002012-08-22T19:56:22.690-04:00Cthulhu, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see...Cthulhu, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see that last sentence of yours in their plank--verbatim!<br /><br />I used the word "symptom" because today's elected Republicans only get that way (elected) if they agree with the rightest of the Right Wing. A more moderate Republican doesn't stand a chance in the bluest areas, and as a result this is what we're going to see more and more of.<br /><br />But you're right. He and his kind are features of the party now. If Romney/Ryan are elected they'll be coming out of the woodwork. No need to say it again, but here it is: We can't let that happen. Ramona Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07160614050077886238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-31561634114022739632012-08-22T17:12:22.590-04:002012-08-22T17:12:22.590-04:00American version of Shariah Law....American version of Shariah Law....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-56023304157755369952012-08-22T13:07:22.820-04:002012-08-22T13:07:22.820-04:00@D James - I think we need to stop claiming that t...@D James - I think we need to stop claiming that the "no exception" crowd is the radical one. We need to show the "rape exception" crowd that they are really just saying that women need to accept the consequences of their slutty ways. You either believe the fetus has equal rights to the mother (a hard pill for any reasonable person to swallow) or your don't. I think that liberals who claim that the "rape exception" crowd are somehow reasonable are giving away the game.<br /><br />I'm not suggesting that the "no exception" crowd don't also hate women--they do. But their argument isn't explicitly anti-women the way the "rape exception" crowd's is. I recommend looking at my site or the blastocyst page on Wikipedia for a picture of a 5 day old "human." Once we can focus the debate on the blastocyst and away from "good girls and bad girls" there is no doubt that we will win.<br />Frankly Curioushttp://www.franklycurious.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-42798583434935700282012-08-22T08:55:53.594-04:002012-08-22T08:55:53.594-04:00I have been lurker here for a couple of months and...I have been lurker here for a couple of months and I love your blog and your voice. Although I agree with what you have to say, I am struck by wondering how do we move forward from here? How do we frame the discussion with conservative friends and relatives in a way that does not get us dismissed as mere liberals? Our very own Rick Snyder used many of the same techniques that are being used right now by the republicans; just keep dodging questions and reassure us that, once elected, all answered will be revealed. So I think we need to put together an argument that somehow breaks through the conservative/racist/misogynistic shell. Thanks for listening.D Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2772956368752433326.post-20863290501046681552012-08-22T08:16:43.051-04:002012-08-22T08:16:43.051-04:00Respectfully, I disagree with one point.
Akin isn...Respectfully, I disagree with one point.<br /><br />Akin isn't a symptom, he's a feature. Remember, Ryan believes the SAME thing that Akin does, that the rest of the GOP does, that that uber christian whackaloon Kirk Cameron does, ad nauseum infinitum.<br /><br />This stance is a plank of the GOP platform, and it sits right next to the "Get the wimmens back in the kitchen barefoots and pregnant" plank.Cthulhuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08097786256433955754noreply@blogger.com